look at katrina and now sandy. you know, sandy wasn't especially a big hurricane, as hurricanes go. it just happened to get deflected ashore in an inopportune place, and from a geological standpoint, you know, katrina was 2005. sandy is 2012. in a sense of deep time, that's like the blink of an eye. it's just happened like that. if these storms happen every five years, then every four years, this is going to be very expensive and traumatic thing, and that's just in the developed world where we have the means to feed 50,000 people on thanksgiving day, but in developing worlds, it leads to just horrible trauma, and we have huge inefficient sis, and there's going to be conflict over transportation and clean water and who gets the rights to live in the right -- in the most desirable places. this could be a turning point. i am an advocate of doing everything all at once. >> so to both of you as we wrap it up, real quick then, do you believe, the both of you, we're going to see more, larger, begger, more frequent storms as a result of these, you know, greenhouse gases? >> there's -- >> we